tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post3748789063087119140..comments2023-05-18T03:13:44.192-07:00Comments on Nonfiction in a Fictional Style: 2012Floyd M. Orrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07328513361518450633noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-36243646296716935872012-03-05T15:35:53.959-08:002012-03-05T15:35:53.959-08:00 I have been following your comments for a long ti... I have been following your comments for a long time, Charley. Are you really a P.h.D.? Would you mind telling me in what field? You can always reply directly to me at ice9 at nctv dot com, if you wish to remain discreet. Thank you for your comment.77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-46014008231266108152012-03-05T11:13:21.965-08:002012-03-05T11:13:21.965-08:00Over at Immoral Minority so far as I know there ha...Over at Immoral Minority so far as I know there has been no "official" response but the host did allow a brief summary to be posted in comments (with a referral to a the discussion at Laura Novak's blog) and someone replied who did read it. IM is evidently strongly committed to a partisan viewpoint, not a comprehensive search for the truth. mistah charleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-4234115522315244972012-02-28T08:36:18.162-08:002012-02-28T08:36:18.162-08:00BABYGATE NEEDS A SPOKESMODEL
Since getting Verizo...BABYGATE NEEDS A SPOKESMODEL<br /><br />Since getting Verizon FIOS as my tv source early this year, I have not <br />taken advantage of the opportunity they afford me to see porn on a pay <br />per view basis. One thing I have done, however, is spend time watching a<br /> number of shows with reporting and commentary on current events - like <br />those on CNN, MSNBC, and FoxNews. I think shows like this - and their <br />radio counterparts - are probably THE major channel for influencing mass<br /> opinion these days - opinion leaders watch these, as well as appear on <br />these, and those further from the center see these and then relay what <br />they hear to members of their social networks who are less politically <br />engaged. <br /><br /><br /><br />If a Babygate book is published, it will have impact to the extent that <br />the author can appear on these programs and talk with members of the <br />commentariat, and get the members of the commentariat to talk among <br />themselves, about the Wild Ride hoax and the other evidence. <br /><br /><br /><br />Joe Friday would say (and now I can watch Dragnet reruns on my tv, as <br />well as in my head) - "just the facts, ma'am". But obviously it's NOT <br />just the facts. It's all done with people, and people respond to the <br />whole package. Fred and/or Audrey are tainted. <br /><br /><br /><br />Who can we turn to? In the words of the song from "How to Succeed in <br />Business Without Really Trying", we need someone people can not only <br />believe, but believe in.<br /><br /><br /><br />"You have the cool, clear<br /><br />Eyes of a seeker of wisdom and truth;<br /><br />Yet there's that upturned chin<br /><br />And that grin of impetuous youth.<br /><br />Oh, I believe in you.<br /><br />I believe in you.<br /><br /><br /><br />I hear the sound of good, solid judgment<br /><br />Whenever you talk;<br /><br />Yet there's the bold, brave spring of the tiger<br /><br />That quickens your walk.<br /><br />Oh, I believe in you.<br /><br />I believe in you.<br /><br /><br /><br />And when my faith in my fellow man<br /><br />All but falls apart,<br /><br />I've but to feel your hand grasping mine<br /><br />And I take heart; I take heart<br /><br /><br /><br />To see the cool, clear<br /><br />Eyes of a seeker of wisdom and truth;<br /><br />Yet, with the slam-bang tang<br /><br />Reminiscent of gin and vermouth.<br /><br />Oh, I believe in you.<br /><br />I believe in you." ---song by Frank Loesser<br /><br /><br /><br />I am sorry that Fred and Audrey can't do this, but they can't, no matter<br /> how knowledgeable and sincere a presentation they can make (sincerity <br />is important - Obama was elected President because he can appear to be <br />sincere, and Romney might well have been his successor except he is NOT <br />skilled at appearing to be sincere).<br /><br /><br /><br />Who else is there? Joe McGinniss didn't go there. I sense that Brad S. <br />has fewer fans among antiPalinistas than he had several months ago. <br />Floyd Orr might be a possibility. He would have to put out a smaller <br />and more focused book - and talking on tv would require a very <br />disciplined approach, to hit only the high points. <br /><br /><br /><br />Ideally, though, the Spokesmodel would be a woman, preferably someone <br />who has given birth. She would have a plausible back story for why she <br />worked so hard to reveal Palin's falsehood - maybe she has had a child <br />with medical issues herself. She would be familiar with the media <br />jungle. Maybe she could strike a deal with those who have accumulated <br />data and documents so a lot of the work that has already gone into this <br />wouldn't have to be redone. Nevertheless, the book that emerged would <br />have to be truly her own synthesis. <br /><br /><br /><br />If only we could find a heroine like this. <br /><br />(I also posted this at Laura Novak's blog just now; to be less coy here, I am suggesting that LN herself could be the Spokesmodel I describe.)mistah charleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-55989941977613209802012-02-28T06:02:52.946-08:002012-02-28T06:02:52.946-08:00 and i have inadvertently outed myself here - i us... and i have inadvertently outed myself here - i usually write as "mistah charley" and for consistency's sake will try to keep using that pseudonymjodreydbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-33896415558186839232012-02-28T05:57:42.659-08:002012-02-28T05:57:42.659-08:00 Floyd, I did not state that you outed Fred - my p... Floyd, I did not state that you outed Fred - my phrasing was "Fred has been outed". Your denial that you were the source of that info is clear and, to my mind, convincing. In the course of following up the hints and links given by the nameless commenter (and perhaps there is even more, possibly even worse, that I did not see) I found enough skeletons in the closet to adequately explain why someone, and especially someone's wife and family, would not want to be publicly associated with the exposure of the Wild Ride, with what it says not only about a former governor, but the very highest circles of power in our country. Anyone associated with an attack on those circles should expect blowback, of course, and someone with one foot in the world of respectability could find that footing dislodged. <br /><br />Who among us is in a position to cast the first stone at Fred and his alleged Palinospheric collaborator, Ms. A_____? Fred was very sloppy with funds entrusted to him, and when this was discovered made a full confession and reimbursement and resigned his law license. If Ms. A_____ is the person she is said to be, it seems clear that both Fred and Ms. A_____ have derived income from participating in purveying sexually-oriented entertainment to consenting adults. How bad is that? Verizon, in my very own home, offers me pay-per-view ooportunities to see that kind of thing. A Supreme Court justice is well known to have rented many explicit videos in the days when one went to the store to get them on VHS.<br /><br />If the Babygate manuscript were offered to me, to publish under my own name, I would probably decline because of my own history of crimes, misdemeanors, and embarrassing missteps, only some of which have come to the attention of the authorities and would show up in a Google search. It seems as if Palin's accuser, like Caesar's wife, must be above suspicion. Or else be like Ms Tripp, who has just published her book about Todd - "when you ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose, " in Dylan's memorable phrase.<br /><br />Let us not talk falsely now. The hour's getting late.jodreydbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-64816414321896389332012-02-28T04:26:57.129-08:002012-02-28T04:26:57.129-08:00 To those of you who are seeking the truth without... To those of you who are seeking the truth without blinders on, you are <br />encouraged to contact me directly through e-mail at any time. I am <br />always glad to interrelate with my readers on a personal basis. Isn't it<br /> time all of you recognized the simple fact that I have never hidden <br />behind anonymity? Why would I not tell you the truth as I know it to be?<br /> When are you going to figure out that you are never going to get the <br />total truth anywhere else?77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-71813886472327895802012-02-27T16:06:24.331-08:002012-02-27T16:06:24.331-08:00 First of all, I did not out Fred as you stated at... First of all, I did not out Fred as you stated at Serpent's Heart. I have never commented at that blog, and if I did, it would be under my real name, as always. Someone else has finally waked up and done his or her homework, as I had encouraged many to do often over these past months. I do not know who the Anon commenter is, but my best guess is that it is someone we know under a different pseudonym. Overall, I am glad to see that someone else has decided to confirm my story. The depth of the problem lies with the bloggers who have known these secrets for years and have been protecting their queen. I do not personally place a value judgement on someone else's flavor of morality. My concern has been from the beginning that Sarah Palin's political fraud needs to be exposed. The secrets that have been held by the bloggers are not actually the problem. The problem is that these bloggers have been obfuscating the truth for three years now. We cannot build a solid foundation on quicksand, and that is abstractly what these bloggers have been trying to do. They have been perpetrating secrets among each other, all the while keeping most of their followers in the dark.<br /><br />I cannot answer your question directly, as I do not claim to absolutely know the correct answer. What I can say is that I have many sources and documents that back up the material that has appeared at Serpent's Heart in recent days. I have consistently hoped that this behind the scenes mess would not prevent the exposure of Babygate. That is why I have waltzed around the subject. I do not wish to be the one who blocks the exposure of Babygate, yet at the same time, with every bit of new information I acquire and every passing day that there is no evidence of the appearance of The Wild Ride, it increasingly looks like it is a dead idea. There is never going to be a book successfully published and marketed as most of the Babygators so deeply desire. There will be my book, but no others will discuss the subject in detail because for one reason or another, they can't.<br /><br />Right now I am awaiting the reactions that will occur tonight and tomorrow morning. I have mentioned various reasons in the past why The Wild Ride will never see the light of day, but that does not mean that somehow it will not be published. You are the one who discovered the keynote speaker tonight. I would be quite surprised if a certain blogger in Anchorage has not already set up a meeting. Will the course of that meeting be changed? Will tomorrow's story be the truth? None of us knows at this point.77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-48141176617358733582012-02-27T14:46:14.043-08:002012-02-27T14:46:14.043-08:00Since Fred has been outed at the serpentsheart blo...Since Fred has been outed at the serpentsheart blog, can we conclude that you are now sure that his Wild Ride book is not going to be published? By the way, he's scheduled to give a talk in Anchorage tonight, just hours from now as I write. I wonder if anyone will go and ask about Babygate from the audience.mistah charleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-90920359368296684372012-01-02T08:56:43.370-08:002012-01-02T08:56:43.370-08:00Thank you, Floyd, for the best explanation I'v...Thank you, Floyd, for the best explanation I've heard re Fred. I respect your intention to remain silent. A great 2012 to you and all your readers.Amy1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-17393117523009633062012-01-02T04:42:46.394-08:002012-01-02T04:42:46.394-08:00I have been tracking Fred's previous books for...I have been tracking Fred's previous books for months. There are several very serious obstacles to the release and sales success of The Wild Ride, and they are not the ones you have been led to believe. I shall tell no one what I know until The Wild Ride is either released or I am sure that it will not be released. As I have said, I want it to be a national success as much as you do and I do not intend to give any enemies of the cause a heads up. Most of what you really want to know is buried in the blog wars, as it has been for the past three years. I have tried to lead readers of my blogs to the truth as accurately as I can. The problem is that too many find it all too easy to shoot the messenger instead. Try re-reading the classic posts at left under Paradigm Shift. Most of the answers can be found in the top five listed articles. You will not find Fred's identity in there, but if and when his identity is revealed, many things will become clearer to you.77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-53632284562066216182012-01-01T23:08:05.945-08:002012-01-01T23:08:05.945-08:00Ha! I want to ask the same thing as you, Jo: how...Ha! I want to ask the same thing as you, Jo: how can you check Fred on amazon, Floyd? You must know who s/he is. But can you tell us?<br /><br />Re bringing the Palin Hoax to nat'l attn: how about on Amy Sedaris' next visit to Dave Letterman, she sports a fake pregnancy (from her imaginary boyfriend Ricky), and Dave "outs" her -- and she complains "If SP can get away with it, why can't I?" <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Ce7mPcwLQ&feature=rellist&playnext=1&list=PL12130C5FCE837704" rel="nofollow">The two of them are wonderful together</a>, and they'd do a great job. I mailed this idea to AS and DL, but no response of course. Sigh.Amy1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-11349801532756130562012-01-01T22:00:12.916-08:002012-01-01T22:00:12.916-08:00Hi Floyd,
Happy First Day of 2012! Do you know wh...Hi Floyd,<br />Happy First Day of 2012! Do you know who Fred is or anything about the holdup of the book? Can you let us know who Fred is?Jonoreply@blogger.com