tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post8373831631940636542..comments2023-05-18T03:13:44.192-07:00Comments on Nonfiction in a Fictional Style: Blinded by the LightFloyd M. Orrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07328513361518450633noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-39146396804026158172012-01-05T01:23:40.630-08:002012-01-05T01:23:40.630-08:00Oh…I hear all that you are saying…and you are spot...Oh…I hear all that you are saying…and you are spot on. I agree that Santorum is out of the running for 2012, but I caution us to sit back on our haunches because I truly see 2016 as the year that they have set in their sites. Great to hear from you Floyd!TDKS FBThttp://fbt-hr.narod2.ru/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-32502029555105377982011-08-24T23:35:53.759-07:002011-08-24T23:35:53.759-07:00Maybe I should have put quotation marks around tha...Maybe I should have put quotation marks around that last paragraph. I was responding to something Mr. Orr said in the comments.<br />My comment was supposed to be a reply to him but Disqus didn't quite see it that way.VaughnIAMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-36589050911925632002011-08-24T16:52:38.185-07:002011-08-24T16:52:38.185-07:00You have asked a very good question, and like most...You have asked a very good question, and like most politicians, I have a difficult time answering it directly. The link below contains Karl Rove's description of the changes that have occurred since 2008. The second link takes you to the Wikipedia page with many red/blue demographic descriptions. Much of my statement is just my personal opinion that Obama will fail to inspire much of the enthusiasm for his candidacy we saw in '08, and many first-time voters then will stay home, and these will practically all be Democratic. The Republicans, on the other hand, will be much more enthusiastic. Lastly, most of the faster growing cities and states with the stronger economies are red states in The South. Consider how many cities such as Detroit were devastated by the crash of the housing bubble in 2008. Consider also the recent, intense red/blue fight in Wisconsin. In general, my attitude about all this is that if I am wrong, that will be wonderful! If I am not, and the Dems do not turn out the vote, we are all screwed!<br /><br />http://www.rove.com/articles/314<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-3050206117487783202011-08-24T14:30:34.233-07:002011-08-24T14:30:34.233-07:00How do you see the Democratic base of the North sh...How do you see the Democratic base of the North shrinking?Conscious at last!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-66010664047467741672011-08-24T08:23:18.175-07:002011-08-24T08:23:18.175-07:00You cannot discount the rampant Republican disenfr...You cannot discount the rampant Republican disenfranchisement of people likely to vote for Democrats nor the vast electoral fraud that generally seems to benefit Republicans as well. If you're not familiar with this subject, you can get a good education at bradblog.com. I understand that the sociological issues are your strength, and that's what you should concentrate on, but they work together with the electoral problems to bring us the mess we wallow in today.CambridgeKnitternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-14418333525076681172011-08-24T06:46:47.850-07:002011-08-24T06:46:47.850-07:00I've watched Jerry Brown for a long time, and ...I've watched Jerry Brown for a long time, and I too think very highly of him.Amy1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-64964260750050893552011-08-24T00:29:44.612-07:002011-08-24T00:29:44.612-07:00Your words pretty well prove that you don't kn...Your words pretty well prove that you don't know how the President of the United States is elected. The voters are the ones who put President Obama in office not the DNC.<br /><br /> As for President Obama, I think he is a wonderful, intelligent man, but I shall always wonder how much better off we would be today if the DNC had not picked 2008 to elect the first A-A President. As for Bill Clinton, I did not vote for him in the primaries, either. I wanted Jerry Brown, and I still think he would have been preferable. VaughnIAMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-46865666829956876982011-08-23T20:37:22.698-07:002011-08-23T20:37:22.698-07:00One of the points I was trying to make with this p...One of the points I was trying to make with this post was that the Democrats have truly alienated white Southerners to an extreme degree, and I think this is increasingly becoming a tactical mistake. The southern states keep getting larger, while the Democratic base of the North keeps shrinking. As I have stated many times, if every poor, lower-class immigrant or minority voted in the same percentages that the CINO's vote, everything would be just peachy for us all, but the statistics show that these groups actually vote in tiny percentages. What I would like to see is the real Christians splitting off from the voting bloc of the CINO's, because I do not see the current Democratic strategy as a winning one. All I want for America is for all of us to progress forward, but I feel that we cannot do that until we break up The Marriage Made in Hell between the Evangelicals and Wall Street.<br /><br />P.s.: Just as I am for the total legalization of marijuana to stop the drug war madness, I am also totally for the enforcement of the minimum wage. Notice that neither side is really for the latter, even though that would intensely diminish the whole illegal immigration issue very quickly. This last issue is about money, not race, but only a nobody like me is allowed to publicly say it.77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-29638611470183327192011-08-23T14:37:18.698-07:002011-08-23T14:37:18.698-07:00As I think about the connections to the South that...As I think about the connections to the South that American presidents have had just in my lifetime, the WH has been occupied for most of that time (Johnson, Carter, Clinton - D's and Bush H.W., Bush W. - R's) , this one region of the country seems to have a disproportionate presence. I'm no demographer, but I have a difficult time understanding that. I like Jerry Brown's latest proposal about the popular vote qua electoral college vote. Seems like the fix to me. Any thoughts?nancydrewednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-60920401642760487542011-08-23T10:42:06.858-07:002011-08-23T10:42:06.858-07:00Thank you for the kind remarks and I hope you enjo...Thank you for the kind remarks and I hope you enjoy the book! The title is meant to address some of the Babygate cult followers, as well as the Christians I hope we can coax back into reality. I tried to address the complete story in Paradigm Shift, from the nation's cultural and economic origins to the corporate takeover of our media.77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-65848762701311845212011-08-23T10:14:37.613-07:002011-08-23T10:14:37.613-07:00Hey Floyd-- Thanks for the quick response and summ...Hey Floyd-- Thanks for the quick response and summary of your book -Paradigm Shift.<br /><br />I have ordered it and I look forward to reading it. I know that my angle of vision is different than yours - but that will make for interesting exchanges. This is meaty, controversial material. <br /><br />I hope that lots of other folks who've been following these issues will buy the book- Maybe, in the future, we can have some online "book club" chats or something <br />like that ?!?<br /><br />In any case- I have one more suggestion Floyd. Perhaps you might adjust the title to this post so as to indicate that this IS a summary of Paradigm Shift:Palin Matrix. That way, folks will see it as such at all the blogs that link to you. Indeed, I can remember, recently, at another blog, someone asked for this summary. CheersConscious at last!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-25588080800218914612011-08-22T21:52:20.618-07:002011-08-22T21:52:20.618-07:00Hi Floyd -- good article. I disagree with a few p...Hi Floyd -- good article. I disagree with a few points. One is the "hate" of Palin. Speaking only for myself, I don't care about her enough to hate her. At first, it was an interesting mystery to puzzle through: why did the data points not add up? Next, it was a search to understand who the enablers prob were, and why. Now, my interest is to expose the BabyHoax just to confirm (for the enablers) that this kind of politicking is not okay so they are more reluctant to try similar ruses. A little accountability from the enablers-perps. AND the all-important independent voter should be helped to know about the hoax to encourage him/her to vote the enablers out, and use dollar votes to shun the corporate enablers. SP herself is of little interest, except insofar as her enablers use her to "energize the base" with such uniformly sad results. But others can do that energizing, too, once Palin is used up.<br /><br />I think what I see as the emotional issue in the blogs I follow is the enormous distress and fear about our country's welfare -- and Palin's unrevealed hoax symbolizes that for me; but of course it is not in itself the problem. The problem is vast and complex, and Palin is the tiniest of festering pimples upon it.<br /><br />Second -- I wonder what about Edwards appealed to you? A liar. Who accepted $1M from an old lady (Rachel Mellon) to cover up his double life. Who says he cheated on his cancer-patient wife "only when she was in remission." Hilarious if it weren't tragic. All that, while not indicating his political positions, says enough about his judgment and ethics to make me want no part of him.<br /><br />Third -- I am THRILLED that our president is Obama. You are wrong when you call him the first A-A president: he is half A-A and half Caucasian. That is a v important difference. He comes from and belongs to ALL of us. And I would trade any of the racist problems that arise for Obama's superb smarts / wisdom / ability any day. Which he is continually surprising even his best fans with. We have to face these racist problems of ours, and why not now? You are talking like the old go-slow-on civil-right people. Nancydrewd reminds us that Clinton was a Southerner. AND SO WAS DUBYA! No more appeasement of racists, please.Amy1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-33223572531720927302011-08-22T20:21:36.573-07:002011-08-22T20:21:36.573-07:00hurrah! You are there. Thank you, Floyd.hurrah! You are there. Thank you, Floyd.eclecticsandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-64753803995499762802011-08-22T18:20:52.504-07:002011-08-22T18:20:52.504-07:00I think Bill, Barack, and other modern Dems are si...I think Bill, Barack, and other modern Dems are simply too centrist. It's not that I do not think there should be some compromise with the other side, but the relentless sellout to Wall Street is clearly destroying the middle class. Yes, I think Perry or Mitt will be the Repub nominee, and maybe the next President. The main reason I included Obama in this article is because we shall never know how much better things might have been if the Tea Party did not have such an obvious target for their vitriol. As always, thank you for the insightful comment.77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-89811462962281011312011-08-22T18:13:08.553-07:002011-08-22T18:13:08.553-07:00Thanks as always Floyd. Hope you have some time t...Thanks as always Floyd. Hope you have some time to look at the Frank essay. <br /><br />But what about how come Bill Clinton didn't re-enfranchise the white male southern voter. What did I miss? Because after one Southern president after another since the Johnson era, I've missed how Mr. po' white south could have felt left out of the discussion. As far as I can see, the South has been disproportionately felt on the national scene for far too long now. GWB2 and now we're actually discussing Rick Perry?? That's an unbelievable (as in the extreme) prospect for me.barre mcneilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-37477677136340582572011-08-22T17:22:42.059-07:002011-08-22T17:22:42.059-07:00For what it's worth, Nancy, the bits about Edw...For what it's worth, Nancy, the bits about Edwards and Obama felt a bit strange as I wrote them. I was trying to cram too much information into too few words, because at that point the article was already very long. Of course I literally understand what a party the Repubs would have had if the Edwards baby story had been discovered after he had been elected. The point I was trying to make is that CNN had already pushed him out of the running well before any of the scandal was exposed. I think voters should be far more diligent than they are during the primary elections. Personally, I have always wondered what the MSM knew about that and when. I would not have put it past them to have known ahead of time and pushed Hillary to protect Elizabeth. I also would not have put it past the Repub operatives to have discovered Edwards' weakness early on and dug up a goldbricker just for him! As for President Obama, I think he is a wonderful, intelligent man, but I shall always wonder how much better off we would be today if the DNC had not picked 2008 to elect the first A-A President. As for Bill Clinton, I did not vote for him in the primaries, either. I wanted Jerry Brown, and I still think he would have been preferable.<br /><br />Thank you for your insightful comment. Such discussion of the real issues is always welcome here.77TA66noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1352677495040900455.post-46506071369587703052011-08-22T15:30:58.212-07:002011-08-22T15:30:58.212-07:00Floyd -- You had me right up to John Edwards. Firs...Floyd -- You had me right up to John Edwards. First, we <i>did</i> have eight years of a Southern white male in Bill Clinton. And then there would be that little problem of Rielle Hunter and the "extra" baby Edwards. Can you imagine the mess we'd be unraveling had he been the candidate and won?<br /><br />Other than that, points all taken. You know my feelings about the blog "franchising" of Palin and how it should have reasonably put a stop to her by now. It hasn't. Hmm. Wonder why? Although I will say that when serious journalists (remember the internal journo-list emails?) refuse to address what's under their noses, we shouldn't be surprised that enterprising bloggers did. Just wish the energy expended in those comments sections could be used to do some genuine political organizing at the community level. Also, more listening, less turf-protection, would be helpful. imho<br /><br />Question now is how to convince average citizens and bystanders who care something about their own futures to understand that the toxic TP/GOP/megachurch concoction that's been brewing is their biggest threat. Headline "Middle Class Expires While No One's Looking". Film at 11.<br /><br />btw -- Here's a link to a Thomas Frank essay I've only recently stumbled into -- <i>The God That Sucked </i>, from about <a href="http://people.ucsc.edu/~nuclear/econ1/hotnews/godthatsucked.htm" rel="nofollow"> 2001 </a>. You will appreciate his take, I think.nancydrewednoreply@blogger.com